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i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and sound bites to put all over the media. this is the era we are living in and for whatever republicans and specifically this campaign continue to ignore that and it's just the realty of the times that we are losing in. >> so you are hoping that they can explain many of us are not there because they have not communicated. >> i think no matter how complex the issue is, which no one is saying this is an incredibly complex issue, they are going to have to narrow it down and make it digestible for average americans and they are not doing that right n
i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and...
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including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was severely conservative. he vowed to repeal obama care. and then there's this -- >> i have experience in health care reform. now and then the president says i'm the grandfather of obama care. i don't think he meant that as a compliment, but i'll take it. this was during my primary. we thought it might not be helpful. >> this goes to the root of the gop brand problem. they came in and assaulted programs that people like. and now they're trying to run like the wind from it. i'd like to call this move, the walk back. joining me now is democratic stra
including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was...
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. >> yeah, good luck with that one, paul ryan. i sure hope he's going to go in there and think he can do that. i love joe biden and this is the guy to take paul ryan down on a number of levels. he's going to have to defend himself and there's going to be plenty of time if he wants to walk through any kind of numbers. i'm sure we can get out a whiteboard and pen and write it down. i'm sure biden will give him all the time he needs to walk through the numbers. there's still a huge liable for the romney/ryan ticket, and that is this issue of medicare and what they would do in these tax breaks, and i really believe that joe biden is going to be able to hold paul ryan's feet to the fire in a way that we have not yet seen. >> okay, hogan, so karen says that joe biden is going to literally pummel this man and knock him out in about the second round. what's your assessment of the fourthcoming debate, hogan? >> i'm not sure if it will be the second round but joe biden will definitely throw a whole lot more punches than barack obama did. i'
. >> yeah, good luck with that one, paul ryan. i sure hope he's going to go in there and think he can do that. i love joe biden and this is the guy to take paul ryan down on a number of levels. he's going to have to defend himself and there's going to be plenty of time if he wants to walk through any kind of numbers. i'm sure we can get out a whiteboard and pen and write it down. i'm sure biden will give him all the time he needs to walk through the numbers. there's still a huge liable...
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paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by his wife indicated a genuine anxiety she has for his mental well-being? >> well perhaps, an unspoken one. i don't think that obviously when she said mental well-being, i think she's talking about the emotional. the toughness it takes to stand in office. i'm not suggesting he somehow has borderline personality. i'm suggesting that the border states however are coming into view here and that the swing states certainly are up for grabs because mitt romney has squandered a serious purchase on his right wing constituency, gotten through paul rya
paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't have time to give you the numbers. look, obviously this is a campaign that has gone awry. his great he is help mete, his wife, has revealed his greatest fault line. his own wife casting suspicion on the -- >> to be fair you have extrapolated somewhat. do you really think that that comment by...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc contributor. thank you for being here. big deal? >> probably not. it's old news. this is well-covered ground. and there's nothing in the speech that seems to me on the surface that's going to reset anything in the race. what it will do is create a conversation in conservative media about this event, the old tape here, as opposed to the expectations game that mitt romney is trying to control ahead of a really high-stakes debate. >> that's interesting. i don't mean to cast dispurgss on the journalist integrity, but i have noticed there have been a number of things that the ream campaign have wanted to inject in
paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc contributor. thank you for being here. big deal? >>...
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so for mitt romney, it's 47% and for paul ryan it's 30%. the idea that a large portion of americans are beyond the reach of the kind of politics the republican ticket is offering, it turns out it's both guys on the ticket who believe that. it's not just mitt romney. joining us is ryan grim, washington bureau chief for "the huffington post." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this is not new tape tonight. these are not new remarks. they are from november. i have to ask how they came to your attention and whether there's any suggestion from the ryan camp or romney folks that there's any question to its authenticity. >> there's no question. it was at a spectator event last november. it's been online since then, almost nobody has viewed it. it was sent to me and a few other reporters over the weekend along with about 15 or 20 other clips of paul ryan saying things over the past ten years. and i had kind of put it off sunday and monday, and today i just decided i'd listen to a bunch of these clips and here you go. here's pa
so for mitt romney, it's 47% and for paul ryan it's 30%. the idea that a large portion of americans are beyond the reach of the kind of politics the republican ticket is offering, it turns out it's both guys on the ticket who believe that. it's not just mitt romney. joining us is ryan grim, washington bureau chief for "the huffington post." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this is not new tape tonight. these are not new remarks. they are from...
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paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate. >>> a pennsylvania judge will let voters go to the polls without photo i.d., upholding a controversial
paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after...
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the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better prepared. however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled the t
the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better...
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and paul ryan, did you hear about his marathon time too? yoo does the obama campaign have that option? >> i don't think so. >> i think the first debate will be remembered for romney one and two, big bird. and that is the image that will be on saturday night live. the only way to turn that to his advantage is to call him out on it and use the results of the first debate to improve his performance. remember, he went into a preevent defense and sitting on his lead. he is a good performer and good guy. >> jonathan, thank you for being here. i was excited to talk about this and i interrupted you a lot, i'm sorry. it turns out we have an unfortunate scoop. and it is out of pennsylvania and that story is coming up next. stay with us. >>> before the big unaffordable news, on tuesday of this week, something big happened. on tuesday a pennsylvania judge ruled that voters don't need a voter id to vote in this year's election. voter rules that were going to dinnen franchise up to one in eight voters in that big swing state were put on hold. but whether
and paul ryan, did you hear about his marathon time too? yoo does the obama campaign have that option? >> i don't think so. >> i think the first debate will be remembered for romney one and two, big bird. and that is the image that will be on saturday night live. the only way to turn that to his advantage is to call him out on it and use the results of the first debate to improve his performance. remember, he went into a preevent defense and sitting on his lead. he is a good...
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ron mott travels with paul ryan. joining me on the phone now from columbus, ron, what does the romney/ryan campaign think that paul ryan can do for its message in ohio? >> hey there, craig. good saturday to you. i think he is doing exactly what this ticket believes he can do. we just made a pit stop here at the varsity club on the ohio state university campus. going in to just meet people. and you can see people coming out of surrounding buildings to come see what all the fuss is about. this is the kind of excitement paul ryan generates with his ticket. i think that's why mitt romney ultimately chose him, because he can connect with people on a very real level. he is from wisconsin. he is a midwestern guy. he is a hunter and a fisherman. all the values that people hold near and dear in the midwest, this is paul ryan. so after this event today, though, he will be speaking to the national u.s. sportsmen alliance annual banquet. one of the challenge that this campaign has is that the message they're selling, at least he
ron mott travels with paul ryan. joining me on the phone now from columbus, ron, what does the romney/ryan campaign think that paul ryan can do for its message in ohio? >> hey there, craig. good saturday to you. i think he is doing exactly what this ticket believes he can do. we just made a pit stop here at the varsity club on the ohio state university campus. going in to just meet people. and you can see people coming out of surrounding buildings to come see what all the fuss is about....
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paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the premise of the question. he'd try and explain it. he'd say, this is where we want to move the country. not about work, but it's been so damaging to sort of accept it and engage in it and embrace it, it is such a losing proposition. even the research from his own campaign must tell him that. >> joh
paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the...
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and paul ryan, did you hear about his marathon time too? yoo does the obama campaign have that option? >> i don't think so. >> i think the first debate will be remembered for romney one and two, big bird. and that is the image that will be on saturday night live. the only way to turn that to his advantage is to call him out on it and use the results of the first debate to improve his performance. remember, he went into a preevent defense and sitting on his lead. he is a good performer and good guy. >> jonathan, thank you for being here. i was excited to talk about this and i interrupted you a lot, i'm sorry. it turns out we have an unfortunate scoop. and it is out of pennsylvania and that story is coming up next. stay with us. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teac
and paul ryan, did you hear about his marathon time too? yoo does the obama campaign have that option? >> i don't think so. >> i think the first debate will be remembered for romney one and two, big bird. and that is the image that will be on saturday night live. the only way to turn that to his advantage is to call him out on it and use the results of the first debate to improve his performance. remember, he went into a preevent defense and sitting on his lead. he is a good...
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don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for wat
don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings...
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paul ryan is not a friend of mitt romney long term. paul ryan is for paul ryan. he is thinking about 2016. he has not gotten what he needed. >> before we go, i have one last question. >> yes. >> what about, you talked about paul ryan, this medicare argument, you know, do you think that seniors believe that this is only going to affect people under the age of 55 or do they not trust politicians enough to think they can't keep their hands off the medicare. >> i honestly don't know how to get my arms around how the seniors react. they understand that paul ryan is up to no good when it comes to his medicare proposal. they look at him you look at the response at aarp, the way the proposal is at the end of the day has been received negatively by all folks even people who say we need to do something with the medicare, don't think it works. >> thank you, eliot spitzer who you can see on viewpoint at 8:00 p.m. you can watch him tonight covering all the issues for the debate. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. >> you can call 866-55-press. we're taking more of your cal
paul ryan is not a friend of mitt romney long term. paul ryan is for paul ryan. he is thinking about 2016. he has not gotten what he needed. >> before we go, i have one last question. >> yes. >> what about, you talked about paul ryan, this medicare argument, you know, do you think that seniors believe that this is only going to affect people under the age of 55 or do they not trust politicians enough to think they can't keep their hands off the medicare. >> i honestly...
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a new reaction today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they have got. >> a voluntary campaign senior advisor is seeking to clarify the president's plan even after the currency of the economy. >> the president's not ga qualifiesed. we have now created 5 million jobs, we're net positive in terms of jobs created. but whole is huge, and we have to create an commit in which the middle class has a chance. we're not going to get back there by getting back to the same policies we have had before. >> the des moines register poll shows a four-point lead in ohio. in ohio the president is currently ahead in -- >>> president obama boarde
a new reaction today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they...
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look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they know than a republican from a party that never supported the program to begin with. >> let me go to joy on that. joy ann, it seems to me that people who once you get into your late 60s, early 70s, into your 80s, you have one primary care, and that's what you're always talking about with your friends, how is your health? how is it going? you're social life in many ways is going to see the doctodoctor. you have to survive, see your kids and grand kids. you don't walk away and say i'd like to cut it but i don't like his health care program. >> the most remarkable thing when you go back an
look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they...
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i think paul ryan did. maybe you'll see more from paul ryan in the vice presidential debate. i think he's going focus on regulation and all that stuff. >> let me ask you, a built of a warning to you. >> i will not gloat. i will never gloat. >> you may be right and that's okay. romney took a machete and lifted newt gingrich's head off. and later on romney took maybe a different cleaner machete and took rick santorum's head off. obama on the other hand has been surrounded by doughy psycho fans, he hasn't been in any hand to hand combat. he hasn't had any debating experience, he's gone soft. that's why romney might just pull a real upset here. >> i'm not playing a game, i'm being very honest with you, i these president obama does great in front of the teleprompter, and i'm biting my nails over this. now that having been said -- >> he's likable. >> but this notion of national polling numbers is a farce. this election is going to be decided in the swing states. obama has a nine point lead in ohio? you guys are suggesting that the debate is going to change everything. >> to larry s
i think paul ryan did. maybe you'll see more from paul ryan in the vice presidential debate. i think he's going focus on regulation and all that stuff. >> let me ask you, a built of a warning to you. >> i will not gloat. i will never gloat. >> you may be right and that's okay. romney took a machete and lifted newt gingrich's head off. and later on romney took maybe a different cleaner machete and took rick santorum's head off. obama on the other hand has been surrounded by...
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paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lesson said about the morality of his conduct during the vietnam period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is coming up. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have some? ♪ oh, hey alex
paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was...
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you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not quite fridays off but it did make the job more straight forward. and george thorus pledged more money to you today. why did he do that today and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bring them out of the woodwork? >> is this the moment where we need to get involve snd. >> we are getting into this period where you are at the last moment where big investments are voting in the race. iowa is voting today. you can make investments in television add ver advertisements. i think a lot of democrats are feeling the election is here and even though mitt romney has not performed very well over the last two weeks, the president is barely knocking on 50% in the last two weeks. democrats are feeling the pressure and are concerned. >> when people are talking about giving maybe a seven figure donation, you were on the campaign side of it with normal donors year
you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not quite fridays off but it did make the job more straight forward. and george thorus pledged more money to you today. why did he do that today and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bring them out of the woodwork? >> is this...
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>> paul ryan. paul ryan, he -- you know, he hasn't really changed his debate at all. he's not helping in wisconsin. >> okay. ladies, thanks so much. susan, margie, molly, appreciate it. see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern. but stay with us, craig melvin is in the house. he's up next. i'm alex witt. have a great day. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics, put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? the spiked heels are working. wait! [ garth ] great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ cheers and applause ] with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringe
>> paul ryan. paul ryan, he -- you know, he hasn't really changed his debate at all. he's not helping in wisconsin. >> okay. ladies, thanks so much. susan, margie, molly, appreciate it. see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern. but stay with us, craig melvin is in the house. he's up next. i'm alex witt. have a great day. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. your boa! [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day!...
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who paul ryan was. now they do. we have done polling and seen is an effective message for democrats against republicans, to talk about the ryan plan. >> let me push back a little here. >> go right ahead. [laughter] >> a day or two before governor romney made his decision about his running mate, i was talking to another pollster. runs the democracy corps. they have been trying to use the ryan plan to beat republican members of congress over the head. like you said, nobody knew who paul ryan was. as we were getting off the phone, i said, i will give you this. i do not think governor romney is going to pick paul ryan. but if he does, we will have another conversation. it strikes me that democrats have not effectively made medicare and the rhine plan -- the ryan plan, i have seen the polling and how it moves people. i have not seen them in flicked a lot of bodily damage on republicans on the ryan plan, on medicare, so far. am i missing something? has it had a meaningful effect or not? >> the quick answer wo
who paul ryan was. now they do. we have done polling and seen is an effective message for democrats against republicans, to talk about the ryan plan. >> let me push back a little here. >> go right ahead. [laughter] >> a day or two before governor romney made his decision about his running mate, i was talking to another pollster. runs the democracy corps. they have been trying to use the ryan plan to beat republican members of congress over the head. like you said, nobody knew...